MMM. THAT OTHER DENNIS sure is a wack job.
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MMM. THAT OTHER DENNIS sure is a wack job.
You learn that the majority of your audience is not responding on those things. So a relatively small number of people are being very loud about what they want. If you respond to it the way you think you should, it's not necessarily the best thing for the show.
It's not about the control of the story elements, [but] about being part of the dialogue.
CS: Are there any aspects of the way you structured the mythos of Battlestar that you might have done differently with hindsight?
RM: We wouldn't have had Boxy. The intent was that you had Boomer and you had Tyrol and Boxy as a sort of nuclear family going into the series. We tried to work him into episodes, but the character wasn't organic to our show. He was an idea that started and then stopped. We weren't even invested enough in him to kill him -- it seemed gratuitous just to kill him. Even for me.
We weren't going to deal with the fact that Boomer's a Cylon for a long time. We'd have these three forming a family. When I was writing "Water," the second episode, I said, "And she starts realizing she's a Cylon."
If we'd know that, we probably would have set her up differently in the miniseries.
We wouldn’t have thought certain things about the series that turned out not to be true. For example we intended to go to other ships in the fleet. We were going to go out to the fleet -- to the hospital ship, the prison ship, we were going to track a serial killer through the fleet. That was part of the sales pitch for the series. It's not just claustrophobic aboard this aircraft carrier and Colonial One.
That turned out not to be practical. The prison ship with Tom Zarek destroyed our budget. It was so far over pattern we had to make major cuts in the next five episode. So we realized we had to put all the action aboard Galactica and Colonial One. The series pivoted at that point and became very much about the characters on those two ships. And that meant that stories had to be about the overall story arc. Had we been able to go find stories on the other ships, maybe we could have gone another season or two. You would have had more shows not about the mythos. Instead we had to put the key cast in the heart of the action all the time, and that meant you had to go to the main story.
So we wouldn't have gone to the prison ship so early, to start that language of going to other ships.
We probably would have yanked Lee out of the flight suit sooner. Laura Roslin didn't really have anyone to complement her in the political world. It would have been good and useful to have him in conflict with her; we could have told stories more easily.
CS: Do you feel the DVD market has changed how writers write TV?
RM: It’s changed the audience consumes TV. And it’s probably given writers like myself a sense of “they’ll watch it on the DVD, that's where it will live forever. That's the real version." So when the cut comes in twenty minutes over, I'm thinking, "I've got to cut this thing down, but the real episode will be on DVD.
“There’s a snobbery about commercial shows here, among writers particularly,” Ms. La Traverse said. “Everyone dreams of doing a dark HBO series. There’s a resistance.”
“It took us a while to find writers who embraced this shape,” she added, “and wanted to be accessible, relatable, heroic, emotional, all the choices we really wanted to make.”
Our writers gained confidence and experience, realizing they were just as good as (and maybe sometimes even a little better than) the writers who had dominated their trade in the past. And that confidence grew all through the 1980’s and 1990’s. Right up until 1999, when some political bagman blessed with a plumb post on the CRTC decided Canadian drama wasn’t that essential after all.
Many of our good writers left. Others stayed, believing their credits and experience could help recover what had been lost.
And those that stayed and those who graduated into the craft from all the new film schools all struggled against a growing tide that valued the ability to fill out government forms over the ability to conceive and create drama.
Many worked really hard at creating shows that were different and good and definitively Canadian. Shows like “Intelligence” and “Corner Gas” and “Trailer Park Boys” and “Flashpoint”. Television series any writer in this country would be proud to call their own or have had a hand in writing.
But along the way, they saw their efforts compromised and countered by others who felt they knew what was better for Canadian broadcasting. No matter how many times the Writers’ representatives would appear before broadcasting commissions and no matter how many times their predictions on the negative outcomes of changing regulations would come true, they were marginalized and ignored and berated.
And like a lot of peoples who feel marginalized and abused, those writers began to become the “Uppity Ice Niggers”; the ones who weren’t going to just shut up and do what they were told when they instinctively knew there were ways to make something better.
It’s as if the same myths perpetrated to keep waves of immigrant communities from becoming empowered are now being used against writers...Nobody calls Canadian writers “Mexicans in Sweaters” anymore. Now we’re “complainers” or we’re “difficult” or we’re “snobs”. Like the creeds and nationalities and races before us, it’s easier for some to snigger that somebody thinks they’re Hemingway or Shakespeare or Frank McCourt than to figure out if they, perhaps, just might be.
It’s always easier to be arrogantly dismissive than to engage those who don’t share your world view as possible equals.
I’ve run shows and hired writers in a half dozen countries over the last 25 years. Hundreds of writers. And unlike some of our current successes, many of the shows I ran were pure, unadulterated crap. ‘Cleavage and Dinosaurs’ as I’m wont to describe the formula.
But even if the shows I was working on demanded vivid decapitations, misogyny or ridiculous leaps of logic, I’ve never had a single writer turn me down because they thought they were better than the show.

i'm confused about Gross's comment, 'what if it isn't successful?'
doesn't that just mean the show will crash and burn? but how would that be different if there was no US network involved? that is, if the show was made w/o US involvement, and strictly with Cdn $ and wasn't successful, wouldn't it still crash and burn? am i missing something?
Actor and producer Paul Gross, whose show Due South was among the first Canadian-made shows to win a prime-time time slot on a major U. S. network after it was picked up by CBS, says the Canadian industry should be careful about making this a model for their future, suggesting there is a danger of our industry becoming an "assembly branch plant" for the U. S. networks.
"The difficulty with the Canadian companies that are engaging in these is that if it's not a hit, then what do you do?" says Gross. "You suddenly have this big fallout of the financing of the show. It's a dangerous model to pursue exclusively. And it's completely outside of your control. You might be putting in the lion's share of the money, but you do not control the fate of the production. But it's extraordinarily attractive. You get big exposure in a way you can't generate out of Canada alone. It certainly helps with foreign sales to have ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox behind it. But it does bring some handcuffs that aren't all that attractive, creatively and for broadcasters."
John Doyle returned from Buenos Aires in the spirit of a soccer hooligan, taking a swipe at the biggest fans of Canadian television: Canadian TV writers (TV Writers - Study The Leamington Big Tomato - Review, June 11). Mr. Doyle cuts a wide swath for sins of snobbery he admits apply only "to a few."
I've never met anyone interested in making TV that no one wants to watch. Mr. Doyle knows this - he was in that airless CRTC room last year when the Writers Guild of Canada and four screenwriters fought against the proposal to split the Canadian Television Fund into commercial and cultural streams. It was Canadian TV writers who argued that the two can't be separated.
What we should be worried about isn't snobbish Canadian writers, it's a push with the new funding model - in which U.S. networks bulk up their prime-time skeds with programs bought cheaply in Canada - to spend CTF money on stories written for generic Anytown-USA productions. The CTF is a limited fund and meant to support stories written by Canadians aimed at Canadians. "Canadian and commercial" are as synonymous as "American and commercial," and every Canadian screenwriter knows it.
Currently v. amused by defensive, kneejerk snarling from TV writers. At least they're not stabbing each other with their pencils todayabout 17 hours ago from web
What I'm wondering is this: Where are the Canadian cultural warriors ready, willing and able to articulate why we need Canadian-made television?...Perhaps those who actually make Canadian TV are cowering in fear. Perhaps they are afraid of the cable companies. If so, they should be ashamed of themselves. Soon, it will be too late and the question will be this: Who speaks for the dead?John Doyle, Globe & Mail, Feb 15, 2007.
While I was away - I came back grumpy, obviously - an issue blew up. Chris Haddock, creator of Da Vinci's Inquest and Intelligence, complained - during an interview with a reporter - about CBC's lack of promotion for Intelligence. He had a point. In a response, a CBC spokeschappy took this condescending view: "We have not yet made a decision as to whether we'll continue with the show; when we do, Chris will be the first to know...Spokeschappy also tut-tutted about Haddock's "attempts to negotiate through the media his relationship with the CBC."
Worse, the normally sensible Denis McGrath, a TV screenwriter of some note, tut-tutted in his blog, "I'm with the CBC on one thing on this: This is not something that should be playing out in the media."
What utter nonsense. The Canadian TV racket suffers from enough don't-quote-me wussiness as it is. There is so much fear of angering some self-aggrandizing TV exec that hardly anyone speaks the truth, out loud, to the press... Another TV writer going all meek and mousy on the subject is disheartening. I really hate that.
John Doyle, Globe & Mail, December 18, 2007.
It's part of the national character, I think. We're not abusive, as American complainers sometimes are. And we don't believe in organizing a mass-action complaint, as Americans do. We get indignant. Then the person receiving the complaint gets really indignant in response.
John Doyle, Globe & Mail, Nov 25, 2003
Do I contradict myself?Very well then, I contradict myself.I am large, I contain multitudes.Walt Whitman, Song of Myself.