This post is going to be about Battlestar Galactica. Well, not exactly. Keep reading : I promise, no spoilers. For those of you who live in Canada and who watch the series on the SPACE channel, you're only at episode 9 or 10. The point I'm going to make in this post doesn't require me to reveal any heavy spoilers, but if you're one of those people who don't want to know ANYTHING about what happens next -- you may want to skip this post. If 10 was "highly spoileriffic" and 1 was "not very spoiler-y at all" I would put this post at a 2. It's about fan reaction, not content. I would ask anyone who comments on this post to follow my lead and not mention specific details of plot for any of the "Season 2.5" BSG episodes. There are plenty of BBoards where you can go have your say on that. I reserve the right to delete any comment I find spoiler-y. Okay? Let's skip down a bit.
Now, to keep my promise and make my point, I'm going to say this: In the finale of the 2nd season for BSG, something strange happens. It's a bold move, and dramatically, it's a really exciting one. It allows Season 3 to go off in all sorts of fun and interesting directions. It makes perfect sense in terms of storytelling economy, and moving the thematic base of the series forward. It shuffles the deck, and is probably one of the boldest season finale moves I've ever seen.
And when it was over, I put my head in my hands and thought to myself:
"the fanboys are going to go INSANE."
I've had my experience with this, working as I did for the Canadian Sci-Fi channel, SPACE. Heck, I was there from the beginning of that channel. I helped get it on the air. Fans, of course, come in all shapes and sizes and temperaments -- but when it comes to sci-fi, there's also a lot of what we came to call, "crazies."
I think Shatner, in that famous sketch, called 'em "Get-a-Lifers."
Anyway. Some of the things that surprised me most when I got my dose of exposure to scifi fans was the following: a) as a whole they're really really conservative (they hate change) b) they think of themselves as very smart and sophisticated and c) they're really not as smart and sophisticated as they think they are.
I never really watched or followed soaps, so I have no firsthand knowledge of this, but I've heard that every fandom has its quirks. Soap-fan friends of mine report that yes, there are Soap-crazies, including those who don't really seem to grasp the difference between Actor and Character. But when it comes to Sci-fi, the thing that always struck me most was that gap: the gap between how they viewed themselves and how they actually were. Ronald Moore has done a lot to mess with that gap with his re-invention of Battlestar Galactica. There are still those fans out there, frothing, furious that the new series didn't follow the old. They're mad about Starbuck being a girl, and -- this is my favorite part -- they keep insisting that the show is one moment away from death and cancellation -- despite the fact that critically and by every measurement imaginable, this is a sea-change hit for SciFi.
A lot of fans seem to hate sex. Objectification, awesome. But actual sex between people? Icky. Others insist that the vision of humanity on the run is too dark. They prefer the original's escapist hijinks. Whatever you think of that artistic taste issue (and it is a taste issue) the thing they seem to hate the most is that this show is drawing accolades and praise from non-scifi viewers. It's reached beyond the core audience. By my reckoning, only two genre shows have done that in the last 20 years: Star Trek: The Next Generation (which everybody watched. In fact, every incarnation of ST lost more of the "non-scifi" people til Enterprise, sadly, was left with the rump) and X-Files. Now, BSG has got that cachet. And it's driving them crazy.
I know for a fact that here in Canada, BSG has proven to be a portal show -- ie: people who don't watch the channel much are seeking it out. I have no reason to believe it's any different in the USA. That's incredibly significant.
And the culture clash between sci-fi fans and (for lack of a better term let's call them) drama fans is making for some very interesting reading. Because the drama fans DO tend to be a little more sophisticated. They know a little more history, a little more about politics, a little more about relationships. (These are all wild generalizations, I know, but they are my impressions.)
I'm still working through what my policy's going to be on reading BBoards once I get a show on the air. I'm sure it will happen eventually, though it might be an act of hubris to think that there will be an online community that cares enough about any show I create enough to comment. But let's take that as read. I don't know what I'm going to do -- how much contact I'll have. I doubt I'll go into the point-by-point lunacy of, say, Kevin Smith, responding in kind. I'd like to think I'd go the Ronald D. Moore route. Do a podcast. Answer questions submitted by online people, that sort of thing. I cringed when I saw that Moore's wife was wading in to threads on the SciFi Channel boards. I wonder if she knows what she's getting into.
Writers dealing with fans and how to handle it is a thing that a lot of people are talking about right now. Artful Writer has an excellent post that touches on this.
But after all my rambling, here's the thing that I find interesting. Fascinating, really. And I don't understand it.
Now this is a highly unscientific measurement, and I did not read every post. But if you go to the Sci-Fi Channel's Battlestar Galactica board and read the reaction to "Lay Down Your Burdens" -- it's really, really negative. Classic Sci-fi fan reaction. "Gaah! Change! Hate it! I'm betrayed.!"
If you go to the BSG board on Television Without Pity, and read that reaction, it's way more positive. And what's more, the analysis is smarter.
So...here's my question. And I really don't know the answer.
Is this a Jets and Sharks thing?
Are the sci-fi geeks at the Sci Fi Channel and the Drama fans at TWOP?
I don't know.
But it sure is weird.
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I think part of all this attitude stems from the profound need on the part of sci-fi fans to belong to something - to be "in on it" from the beginning. Scifi fans - for the most part - think they belong to a unique subculture apart from the rest of humanity. They know something that the general populace doesn't. They are classed in marketing circles as "early adopters". Examples include Star Trek fandom, Whovians (or whatever they call themselves these days), and the anime fans.
Back in the late seventies / early 80's when anime fandom was beginning to take off thanks to the invention of the VCR - there were fans who were highly upset that Voltron was being broadcast in english, and edited for content. The cry was, "They're changing the show!"
They were also upset that so many kids who saw the show in syndication were now interested in anime in general and wanted to see more shows. Anime became available at the local BB or comic shop. It wasn't the same as when anime fans got together at a convention twice a year to watch shows that some fan received from his cousin who was stationed in Okinawa.
"Yeah, this is great, but it's not like it was when just the real fans got together to watch..."
Same thing is going on here with BSG. It hurts the scifi fans of the show because it's not "their show" anymore. It's everyone's show.
There is truly an elitist attitude at work here.
I'm not certain whether or not BSG has "jumped the shark" with this change, but I'm hoping that they prove me wrong. I'm at least going to give them that chance (as is the SF Channel who's already renewed it for another 20 ep. season).
Thanks for the heads-up and thanks for the absence of spoilers. I'm two or three episodes behind you and have felt this second season steadily losing focus and energy for a while now... the prospect of some radical and reinvigorating turn is an encouraging one. Frankly I thought the show was dying a natural death before my eyes.
Presumably the fans moaning about this reinvention are the ones who came to the show enthusing about the previous reinvention, and scorning the protests of the fans who wanted it to be Just Like The Seventies?
Well, guys, looks like you're in that same seat now...
I blame Bjo Trimble. Now every fan of an SF show thinks they're a shareholder and ought to be listened to, and even the crappiest of them doesn't go down without a letter campaign.
Come on, Ron. Slap me in the face with story. That's how you got my attention the first time.
It's interesting that we're talking about fan response to a SF show and Bjo Trimble's efforts to save Star Trek with a major letter-writing campaign.
I just got the news a couple of days ago that a series I love and do a lot of promotional work for (pro bono) got the axe after two seasons in Canada on Space and in worldwide syndication. Because of my close connection with the show's cast and producers I'm being besiged with emails asking me to spearhead a 'Save The Collector' campaign, designed to convince CHUM or perhaps the Sci-Fi channel in the States to invest in another season -- or at least a two-hour wrap up movie to give it some closure.
I love the show and its co-creator, Jon Cooksey, who is like a beloved uncle to me. But I don't have time to organize a global campaign to save the series from extinction -- especially since I've got my own series in development for CHUM -- and for that, I feel really bad and really guilty. Some of the show's fans aint too pleased with me right about now. I guess it's that whole freak-geek fanatic mindset Denis was talking about earlier. Man, when those fans turn on ya, it can be scary!
KJC
Jutratest poisted a bit of a line spoiler in the blog, so I've edited what he said slightly. It exists below:
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Maybe the Sci-fi Channel board is composed of a younger fan base. They seem to have an awful lot of fan art.
TV Without Pity has an older, more seasoned, jaded, schooled fan base i think.
I liked the last episode. It challenged expectations, shuffled the dramatic deck, and did something that I have never seen before on TV.
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Wow, even that was spoilerish?
I've never been deleted before.
I feel so ashamed, but at the same time a little like a bad-ass, so it's ok.
Now this is a strange old conversation for me:-
I class myself as a sci-fi fan, although I'm not a die hard, or a purist (not by a long way)...But to my mind drama has always been the beating heart of sci-fi.
I actually blame Star Trek for dumming down sci-fi, and encouraging viewers not to bother with the little details - like actually having some science or real issues in the show (sorry pedestal time). Maybe it's just because the shows were so popular that they are the target of my ire?
I'm firmly in the Babylon 5 was better than TNG/DS9/Voyager camp (although I heard DS9 got a lot better - but I'd stopped watching by then). Sure some individual episodes were great, phenomenal even, but I never got totally hooked. Then again, I prefer ark tv to episodic tv, maybe that's why?
I love BSG, I've only seen the 1st series so far (due to lack of cable/TV reception). And then you go and liken series 2 to Star Trek and every fiber of my being screams "NO!", and I have to hit myself upside the head and remind myself that we are talking about two very different fish here, plus we're talking about the fans rather than the shows.
See, somehow I equate Star Trek with the demise of the Sci-Fi Fan. And it makes me very sad, watching these clueless yobs, running around proclaiming sci-fi good when they are seriously unlikely to be the electricians, astrophysicists or mathematicians of tomorrow.
Yeah, yeah, I'm coming across as an eliteist f**khead. Plus I have no legs to stand on, here. But I hate the sea-change that has happened in the youth fanbase. They should be forced to show that they can rewire an electic plug before they are allowed to claim sci-fi fan status.
Rant over.
Sorry.
I agree with Stephen. Here in the UK we're a few eps behind but ever since the terrific Farm episode, I've been waiting for things to kick off, and they haven't. I still enjoy it though and I actually swear at the screen whenever Helo's around, but in terms of story, it's been dipping a bit, only teasing us with small scenes that hint at greater dramatic things...but if it's got a belter of a season finale I'll be happy.
Admission- I am and have been a fan. I have even helped run conventions. I am better now.
Conservative is a mild term for what most fans are these days. There is a definite trend towards only catering to the mean. Stargate SG1 is good, Firefly is weird, Battlestar Galatica Redux is not as good/campy as the original. It is not just television that is facing this test- novels, art, movies are all having to make the bell curve or they do not measure up. What amazes me is that so many of these fans are taking it so personally when not everyone agrees that their author/show/picture is the BEST EVER. I think that part of the problem is the aging of the fan base. There is no real acceptance of new ideas and so younger fans are kept out of the organizational level of old fandom and have to go off on their own. Of course, they meet and greet in the cyberworld and thereby isolate the older, rabid fans even more. From what I can see, anime convention leadership is reaching the same point as SF/F con leadership. I am kinda waiting on the new wave- it would be nice to see people in fandom ahead of the curve for a change and not waiting to be validated by ratings and lists.
Pardon me while I babble.
BSG Season 2 has been an inconsistent ride, in my opinion, but almost every show has a wacky second season when they're trying to find their sea legs after their initial renewal. As a result, I hung in with the good and the bad just to see where it all came out in the end. Sometimes you get a show that manages to keep the Season 1 inertia going, which is good for the part of the brain that doesn't want significant changes this early in a show's run, but I also worry when that happens because it could mean that the creators are not willing, or ready, to actually play in the world they've created.
That's why I'm happy with the finale of Season 2 despite not liking it too much. Events were dramatic, sweeping, and they challenge the viewer - something this show has a reputation for doing and part of the reason I started watching in the first place. I'm also dying to listen to the podcast to see what Moore has to say about it.
By the by, did anyone else notice that the writers have given themselves an out if they choose not to pursue this direction in Season 3 ? I guess you're never on the edge of your seat if it is an open/shut sort of finale, so keeping that one opening may be to provide suspense, or an escape hatch. Either way, I'm interested to find out which it is in...oh...6 month's time.
And as for fans, you can't live with them, you can't live without them. As part of a fanbase for many shows that have gone off the air, you hear constant complaining that everyone is missing out on the best TV ever. Then people start watching and suddenly they feel betrayed and want to be part of that culty core audience again. You'd think that widespread approval and security for their favourite show would make them happy, but it doesn't. It makes the show uncool, I guess. Or maybe it steps on their entitlement issues.
Oh well.
That's my ramble for the day.
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